@oklomsy

"you only want DKIM if you are sending marketing emails"

And that is just bullshit.

@selea so using their analogy, you only need free speech if you have something to say.
@oklomsy

@selea I know this is evil but I hope spammers try to impersonate Loopia to such a degree that they get a bad reputation and get forced to implement DKIM.

@selea @oklomsy that's really crazy, you have to question if they're fit-for-purpose on that statement alone.

@selea @oklomsy wut

Super disappointing, both the lack of feature and their attitude.

Everybody needs DKIM because some people spam.

@stemid

I have thought about them aswell, but I really dont want to tinker with custom applications in order to reach access email and calendar

@selea Good news then, they have a proton mail bridge.

https://proton.me/support/imap-smtp-and-pop3-setup

@stemid

No arm64 .deb package :(

@selea Hm sad. Well either way I would avoid hosting my own e-mail if I could. It's just a huge hassle and all the big providers have the whole internet by the balls because they decide who is a credible sender and who is not.

@stemid

The only hassle is finding a good IP-range really. Otherwhise it is really not that hard.
But that is probably because I am an huge idiot and like SMTP and everything around it.

@selea The IP range thing is why I'd recommend using a VPS as a relay, and having the actual mail store at home on an alternative port, or even over wireguard.

Because then you can easily re-deploy a new VPS to get a new IP, or with a completely different provider.

I know VPS IPs have a higher chance of being tainted already but it's more mobility just in case. One of our client filters at work has like 6 public IPs.

@stemid

Yeah, I thinking about something like that actually.
I have the flow drawn on a paper, I just need to find the time - If I ever decide to go forward with it.

@kirrus

I love it actually :)

@daksh @selea At least it will have DKIM and sane username rules.

@oklomsy @daksh

I have thought about it, but I'll just need to find a good hoster - that's all

@selea @oklomsy have you tried riseup?

@daksh @oklomsy

They have failed to implement correct TLSA/DANE for years, even if I reached out to them to explain the issue.

@selea @oklomsy ohh, didnt know
riseup is what i use on a rare occasion i have to email someone, works good enough for that

@tc

Omg, how could I miss that.

Thank you very much!

@selea Np. That's what social media is for, right?

@tc

Oh yeah :D Really!

@sk313t0n

The main problem in my oppinion is that is more and more centralized.

@selea yeah, ig you can track most of its problems back to being owned by every single big corp