jeang3nie @jeang3nie@social.linux.pizza

@antolius waiting for the packages to show up in the Arch repositories so that I can give it a spin myself. I am really excited by a lot of the new features coming out and looking forward to updating a couple of my projects to use new libadwaita widgets, like the new about window. But Gnome releases always seem to be a mixed bag to me. They add things I like and they make a couple changes that I don't.

@alexshendi1 (Oln Man yells at clouds) Aaarrgghhhh!

Note to self. While going to a rock concert in your 40's is still fine, going to work the following day is inadvisable...

@Szwendacz amen to choice.

@Szwendacz while I acknowledge your points as valid, I also have this fear of desktop Linux turning into something like Android, where applications can only communicate with each other over certain blessed channels and when you save a file you don't know where it went to. That sort of system is also a developer's nightmare. So I'm still skeptical of the cost to benefit of sandboxing everything, because right now the only systems we've seen that employ it fully are nightmarish.

@Szwendacz or in other words, rather than attempting to reduce the damage that untrusted code can do, avoid running untrusted code at all.

@Szwendacz the isolation aspect of Flatpak is the least interesting aspect of it to me. Rather than sandboxing untrusted code I prefer the security approach of increasing the level of trust of the code that you are running. This begins by not running proprietary applications or libraries. I realize that this is not a cure all, and that not all open source code is well audited. But it is a philosophical district that I like to make.

I first approached flatpak with a healthy dose of skepticism. I'm beginning to come around a bit after playing around with the command line tooling a bit. I've even managed to install flatpak on my own built from source distribution, giving me access to a lot of applications that I haven't had to build myself. I think I still prefer native packages wherever possible, but I can see this as a valid alternative.

@aral they do both run pacman, but maintain separate repositories. If you don't care for pacman's commands line flags that's valid criticism and I'll give you that one. But the same package manager does not make them the same distro in this case.

@antolius @aral that's all true, but there's more to it. Arch also has the policy of delivering the binaries unchanged from the upstream source, while Manjaro will do certain customizations (mostly branding) and occasionally they break something in the process. Just like what happens in a lot of other "user friendly" distros. To me, this is one of Arch's best features, and why the Arch based distros are absolutely -not- the same.

@aral I'm curious, was it Arch or was it Manjaro? Because if it was Manjaro I feel like calling Arch a dumpster fire is a bit unfair.

I have run both. I have never bricked Arch, but I have bricked Manjaro. I don't equate the two at all.

@kelbot I do love the styling. Very reminiscent of a Morgan 3-wheeler but scaled down. I can see it being a fun vehicle under the right circumstances, but maybe not perfectly practical.

@fbievan for desktop I prefer NeoChat. Fractal is sort of OK, but the last I checked not as fully featured.

Vapad 0.4 released
* Russian, Spanish and German translations
* Application theme is persistant across settings
* Dropdown for opening recently used files
* Prompt for unsaved files when closing
* Overall better user experience with numerous smaller fixes

https://codeberg.org/jeang3nie/vapad/releases/tag/v0.4.0

@elementary I've never used ElementaryOS, but still find this guide to be incredible useful. There is good information on there even if you're not writing for Elementary. If go a far as to say it's useful even if you're not using Vala. Thanks to all those who helped to make it a reality.

@locness3 @elementary vala is still supported. You might be referring to an article by a certain dev laying out the reasons why he personally felt that the project was in trouble. I'm not going to provide the link. Some of his criticism was valid, and some still is. That said, Elementary has caused a significant resurgence in parole adopting the language, and many of those programmers may well become contributors. Point is, the future is not written yet.

There's something really very satisfying about using tools that you've made yourself. I wrote a blog post this morning using Vapad. The second one, I might add. I'm doing some dogfooding with it, but what's nice is that I'm having a pretty good experience with it. Should be ready for a release again soon.