Which do you suggest to use with / ?

@cuqer Couldn't agree more with @redstarfish . If you want something easy to #libreboot, ThinkPad T60 or X60 is your best bet. It's bios is software flashable. There are other ThinkPad models that support Libreboot but they require you to use a SoC and pomona clip etc. to flash it. Librebooted devices are the Free-est option for general purpose x86/x86_64 computing.

There are Purism laptops which claim to have IME disabled, but not sure if you can call it 100% free.

@adnan360 @cuqer @redstarfish I used an x200 for years with libreboot, it was great (and still works fine).

That said the screen brightness sucked, even with a new panel, so I upgraded last year...

@ben I've seen this complain around. I've heard the colors aren't always great either. But I've grown to like it.

But this is bad. The last librebootable devices are from 2 decades ago. This reminds us how much we've allowed our hardware to be closed.

I'm not sure about ARM/RISCV devices either because they tend to require at least some nonfree drivers.

@adnan360 Yeah it's a sad state of affairs.

Early on I 'upgraded' the panel, which fixed the colours but not the brightness. If I had to go back to it now I would - everything else about the machine is brilliant, but the screen is so dim it doesn't really work in the light.

@ben Didn't know it was that bad. I don't use my T60 outside that much, so can't confirm if I have the issue. But I assume it won't be able to show through a midday sun.

btw... there was a mistake in my last reply. By "librebootable devices are from 2 decades ago", I meant "a decade ago".

@ben Although Panfrost looks like a nice effort:

Didn't know Pinebook Pro has a supported GPU. Since it's a Mali Txxx GPU it should be supported by Panfrost drivers.

I've heard Pine64 also has a ROCK64 RISCV SOB which can use open GPU drivers.

But I'm not sure if their other firmware in the system are free.

@cuqer +1 for a older ThinkPad, with libreboot or coreboot

@cuqer i'm using a Thinkpad x250 i7 with 16gb RAM and Debian. I recomend all thinkpad x Serie or T serie.

A fellow x250 Debian user here, though only 8GB RAM (enough for my needs).

@syntax @cuqer Certainly 8gb of ram is sufficient for most things, however when you have some docker containers, codium, and other tools running, there if you need a little more power, but with 8gb of ram it works fine.

@cuqer I'm trying to buy a #tuxedocomputers because I want to support a small, Linux-focused company and they have powerful AMD CPUs. Finger crossed regarding quality and support...

@cuqer @selea Don't know about that Gnu thing but for Linux Thinkpads is the way to go.

@selea I run NixOS on my Thinkpad T490 and it works wonderfully.

Yes, thinkpads are the way to go.

For small budget I recommend E14 or E15

@cuqer Depends on how hardcore you want to go.
Personally, I think Dell is just fine since I'm not a hardcore "muts Libre all the things" guy.
But if you want to go the libreroute, then Thinkpad with LibreBoot would be your best bet.

@cuqer well I think if you want a curated experience, system 76 laptops are the best way to go for out of the box experience.

But I personally say the best laptop is one you already own. Just throw your favorite distro on and see if it works. Good for the environment and your wallet and is one of the best things about linux imo

@cuqer Buy a laptop with Linux pre-installed from

Dell Inspirons get along with Linux pretty well. Some of them are even shipped with preinstalled Ubuntu.
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